Lion Policy Pioneers [Podcast]

In Episode 40 of the Behind the Schemes podcast, we're talking about African lions and the haunting spectre of trade.
While legal international trade in African lions – and the number of captive-bred lions – have increased significantly in recent years, wild African lion populations have declined.

In Episode 40 of the Behind the Schemes podcast, we are talking to Dr. Pieter Kat and Christine Macsween about one of the most recognizable – but least protected – species on the Planet: the African lion.

The African lion has been listed on CITES Appendix II since 1977, which means that for nearly four decades, African lions – and their parts – have been traded legally. However, it is important to keep in mind that the regulating and monitoring of trade in Appendix II species is primarily up to the range countries. What this means is that Appendix II can be used to protect a species – or Appendix II can be used to exploit a species. It’s all in the implementation.

Unfortunately, implementation of CITES Appendix II has been weak, and has failed to protect African lions.

Although some organizations have recently attempted to downplay the threats posed by trade in lion bones and body parts, we believe those threats are significant and should not be brushed aside. The fact is that while legal international trade in African lions and the number of captive-bred lions have increased significantly in recent years, wild African lion populations have declined.

Have a listen to what Dr. Pieter Kat and Christine Macsween of LionAid have to say about the state of the African lion and the haunting spectre of trade.



Timestamps

[04:34] Pieter talks about regional African lion subspecies and the African lion proposal.

[06:25] Pieter explains potential opposition to the African lion proposal.

[07:43] Pieter reveals disturbing information about African lion population counts.

[10:09] Pieter talks about South Africa’s captive-bred lions and the Appendix I listing.

[12:30] Pieter warns about threats to wild lion populations posed by South Africa’s captive breeding operations.

[13:28] Pieter warns about increasing demand for lion “products.”

[14:31] Pieter explains how the lion bone trade can be stopped – but why it won’t.

[16:56] Chris explains LionAid’s initiative to educate children around the world about lions.

[20:51] Chris talks about LionAid’s visit to New Jersey Senator Raymond Lesniak.

[24:19] Chris explains the need to phase out the captive breeding of lions for “canned” hunting and cub-petting schemes.


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I am the founder of Annamiticus and I have been researching and writing about wildlife trafficking issues since 2009. I also founded World Pangolin Day in 2012. I am the author of USAID Wildlife Asia's Pangolin Species Identification Guide: A Rapid Assessment Tool for Field and Desk. I co-facilitated and was a presenter at the USAID Wildlife Asia Pangolin Care Workshop. At the 4th Regional Dialogue on Combating Trafficking of Wild Fauna and Flora, I facilitated the species roundtables on pangolins. I have trekked with forest rangers in Cambodia, journeyed to the streets of Hanoi to research the illegal wildlife trade, and to the rainforests of Sumatra and Java to document the world’s rarest rhinos. At CITES meetings, I collaborate with colleagues from around the world to lobby in favor of protecting endangered species. I hosted the Behind the Schemes podcast and am the author of the book Murder, Myths & Medicine. I enjoy music, desert gardening, herping, reading, creating, and walking with my dogs. Check out my t-shirts and stickers at snoots + teefers.